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  2. Alejandro
    Jun 27, 2011 @ 21:21:03

    Very important post. Schooling is so formulated that an individual with certain advanced traits don’t get the nurturing they need. You might be good at science but your writing skills may be lacking and for that you may fail. I feel that is wrong in many ways.
    Great post Debra


  3. Debra
    Jun 28, 2011 @ 00:13:08

    Alejandro, you’ve hit the nail on the head. It’s a shame we live in a society that mutes our natural born creative gifts by way of institutionalization and linear structures.


  4. InJensMind
    Jun 28, 2011 @ 22:32:53

    I’m surprised that colleges and workplaces haven’t voiced more opposition against the way children are learning after all they are the ones picking up the slack and putting in the time needed to reformat the way students are learning. How exactly does the no child left behind theory work if they step out into the real world to find out that they are in fact way behind? I don’t worry about my kids but, what of all these new graduates what can they expect when they step into college or the workplace this fall just to find out that what they thought they knew no longer matters at all. It would be nice if the education system knew how to teach but, alas I don’t think much will change anytime soon. Seems like the best chance for our leaders of tomorrow will be the homeschooled students of today.


  5. Debra Elramey
    Jun 28, 2011 @ 23:51:09

    I have to agree with you Alejandro and Jenni.
    The cartoon says it all Stuart. “For a fair selection everybody has to take the same exam. Please climb that tree.”
    When turtles fly… http://www.everydaygyaan.com/2011/06/can-turtles-fly.html


    • Tim Greaton
      Jun 29, 2011 @ 00:16:05

      We should have a lot more discussions about education and testing. A really important subject and a really important blog (we’re watching 🙂


      • bornstoryteller
        Jun 29, 2011 @ 00:40:34

        Hi Tim: thanks for coming around here. Debra’s guest blog is great, and I hope you’ll stick around for more. Take a look back over past posts. Hope you find more of what I feel is as important as you: Education, testing, and the betterment for the youth of the world.

      • Debra Elramey
        Jun 30, 2011 @ 23:17:34

        Thanks Tim.Indeed we should have more discussions on the subject of education and testing.

        Do not train a child to learn by force or harshness; but direct them to it by what amuses their minds, so that you may be better able to discover with accuracy the peculiar bent of the genius of each. ~ Plato

    • bornstoryteller
      Jun 29, 2011 @ 00:37:58

      Thanks Debra: I figured I’d leave most of the comments to you, as you are the guest. I looked and looked, and had about ten comic strips to choose from, but this one said “yes, please. choose me” for I felt it fit exactly the sentiment.

      great article. Thank you. Looking forward to part two.


  6. Corinne Rodrigues
    Jul 01, 2011 @ 01:42:41

    Debra – You know I feel very strongly about this too. Education in India, given our large population is all about marks 😦 Can you believe, that just recently students who didn’t get a hundred percent in their qualifying exams were refused admission in to graduate studies at a certain college. Even 99 percent wouldn’t do 😦


    • Debra Elramey
      Jul 02, 2011 @ 15:07:20

      Corinne, “education” everywhere is all about marks. It’s the nature of the beast, better known as the system. Testing is a joke because no matter what they show, very little of what is taught in school is learned, very little of what is learned is remembered, and very little of what is remembered is used. The things we learn, remember, and use are the things we seek out or meet in the daily, serious, nonschool parts of our lives.


  7. Roberta
    Jul 15, 2011 @ 02:34:39

    Question – when did qualifications mean that people could do anything or that they would get off their duff and make a difference?


  8. Kimberly Handley
    Jul 16, 2011 @ 11:57:02


    As always, I love your articles, and this one is one of the best! The cartoon says it all. My daughter is brilliant in the area of period costuming, history, literature and writing yet did somewhat poorly on her SAT. That one test could unnecessarily discourage a talented young person. It is time that we teach our children to think outside of the box!


    • Debra
      Jul 17, 2011 @ 19:32:56

      Kim, amen! We do need to encourage our children to think outside the box. Of course the SAT doesn’t reflect a student’s innate aptitudes. You know your daughter shines in writing and literature, in history and period costuming, and yet these natural talents go undiscovered in standardized tests. I only hope she knows that her test results are not indicative of her true intelligence.


  9. Harry Sadoyan
    Oct 02, 2012 @ 23:43:47

    To be honest, the Public Education System in America is failing miserably. They teach facts, rather than problem solving. I mean, knowing something is important, but it isn’t worth a horse’s ass if a person can’t operate with it. Although creativity and imagination are not looked down upon, but they are not nurtured. Case in Point: Thus far, (I am a sophomore in high-school) I have only had to write one creative paper in English. In sixth grade. The rest is just analyzing other people’s work which, again, is important, but too often it takes priority over making your own contributions.


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