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  1. Tor Constantino, MBA (@torcon)
    Jun 21, 2012 @ 13:43:32

    Great post Stuart – I wrote about the same thing over on my site today.


  2. Lisa Wields Words
    Jun 21, 2012 @ 13:56:29

    I was thinking today how incorrect it is when we focus only on bullying against LBGT youth. Of course, that is important, but we live in a society of bullies, and we really need to change at every level. We are bullied by the government. Adults bully each other. Children bully each other. Parents bully teachers. The reality of our world today is that we are broken, and the fix begins with ourselves.


  3. RAAckerman@Cerebrations.biz
    Jun 21, 2012 @ 14:28:30

    I guess I travel in limited circles. Until you and Tor (http://thedailyretort.com/who-raises-kids-that-bully-the-elderly/ )posted this issue, I was never aware of the situation. I will post the same queries here:
    1. Why WAS there a bus monitor? (It implies to me the school knew there were problems that needed addressing.)
    2. Where the heck was the bus driver? The driver of the bus is not just there to drive, but to provide some order to the chaotic situation of children herded together on the bus.
    3. (You’ve answered this, to a degree.) How swift will the punishment be? I believe the parents of these children should be forced to drive their children to and from school from a month. It will force them to confront their children’s behavior- and whatever examples they failed to provide them.


    • Stuart Nager
      Jun 21, 2012 @ 14:38:29

      Roy, I don’t know why they needed a bus monitor, but there was a reason beforehand. As to the bus driver, the kids yell, scream, torment and throw things all the time: most just want to get the job done and go home, not be disciplinarians. NO ONE wants to be a disciplinarian: they are all too afraid that the kids will tell a parent OR video the discipline and not the action: the adult gets in trouble. Kids get away with murder with no consequences.


  4. Li @Flash Fiction
    Jun 22, 2012 @ 08:27:24

    Just an aside – they’ve raised over 300k for the woman, and on Anderson Cooper’s show he also added that an airline (Southwest maybe?) had offered a package to send her and 9 people to Disneyland.

    As for the seeming escalation in negative child behavior, quite a bit stems from a lack of consequences as well as a general lack of respect and civility in society today. Parents don’t seem to want to enforce any sort of punishment; schools are limited as to what form consequences can take; and everyone is haunted by the thought that they might be sued by someone else. I also hold popular media responsible; look at the huge number of “reality” shows which showcase fighting, name-calling, drinking, cursing, etc. among adults.

    Parenting is failing. Society is failing. And I don’t see it getting any better, really, because children are molded by, and learn from, their parents and adult role models, and there is a decided lack of civility and manners in our society.


    • Stuart Nager
      Jun 22, 2012 @ 09:37:13

      Lots of good points, Li. Too true: reality TV, starting all the way back to Jerry Springer and the like, have shown how not to behave…and it’s accepted.


  5. Anne-Marie Quigg, PhD.
    Jul 02, 2012 @ 18:23:33

    A very interesting post and discussion thread. I have been researching adult bullying and writing about it for more than 10 years (‘Bullying in the Arts’ published last year in UK and US by Gower Publishing). Members of the actors’ union Equity UK tell me it’s endemic in the theatre, and I have had people working in the arts all over the world contact me with their personal experiences including dancers, musicians, visual artists and museum staff. You are absolutely right, Stuart, we do need to label bullying and to educate people about what is acceptable behaviour and what is abusive. Keep on flagging up the issue!


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